MLB’s Latest CBA Proposal Could Dramatically Change Free Agency

[TNtwins85]

18 hours ago, Michael Trzinski said:

It's true. If there were no owners, where would the players play? Not a likely situation, but in the reductionist's world, a valid point.

Maybe the players should get together and have 'player-owned' teams. That way they would only have themselves to blame if they were unhappy...😁

I was hoping for a better argument but I guess you’re going with if there weren’t owners there wouldn’t be players. Gotcha. 

[TNtwins85]

17 hours ago, NYCTK said:

The owners should drop their threats of killing a season of baseball in order to get an unnecessary labor restriction. The players are under no obligation to consider any proposal that requires a salary cap, something they've been adamant about rejecting forever.

Until the greedy scum billionaire owners accept that, there will not be baseball. 

The question is, are the owners prepared to lose billions of dollars in order to get a salary cap? It sure seems like the players union is. Not to mention the hit to future revenue and growth from the owners perspective. The union has already dug in it seems with comments from several players.

[Michael Trzinski]

17 hours ago, NYCTK said:

They'd play in the publicly funded stadiums we all built for the welfare queen billionaires. 

Why do you hate billionaires so? 
Billionaires
Lives
Matter

[NYCTK]

1 hour ago, TNtwins85 said:

The question is, are the owners prepared to lose billions of dollars in order to get a salary cap? It sure seems like the players union is. Not to mention the hit to future revenue and growth from the owners perspective. The union has already dug in it seems with comments from several players.

I truly don't think they are. They'll pretend to be up until late February. 

[Brock Beauchamp]

14 hours ago, Luis Claro said:

Bueno،respondiendo al comentario sobre los contratos diferentes y el pago de impuestos de los mismos es una situación de ver que dicen las leyes sobre los contratos diferentes y que hacer en casos similares al de Otany si decidir residir en Japón No es justo que no pague los impuestos de lo ganado en su contrato Sobre la disputa de las negociaciones del nuevo contrato laboral entre multimillonarios (dueños) y ricos (jugadores),habría que tocar eso de los contratos y los demás temas que tienen ambas partes Todo consiste en cerrar las brechas Lo justo es lo justo No conozco las reglas del IRS con la MLB،pero no creo que haya diferencia con otras empresas،gremios y diferentes tipos de negocios y empleados،como a dicho esta persona en su comentario,Con el mayor respeto, me cuesta creerlo Yo...de verdad¡¡¡No lo puedo creer!!"Habría que reacer las normas y reglas con la MLB y el sindicato para evitar la evasión de impuestos Nosotros los aficionados estmos rezando para que no se produzca otra huelga que pone en riesgo la proxima temporada por la avaricia (con el perdón de todos) que tanto daño causa a aquellos trabajadores que viven de un salario insignificante comparado con esos contratos de millones,incluso los que ya están alrrededor de arbitraje salarial

Bueno... se podía hacer otro arbitraje con tres jueces،cada uno con su asesor .

Es decir un panel  de tres jueces que se encargarán de mediar en un punto específico de las negociaciones y así evitar el paro laborar que tanto daño hace,no solo en lo económico,si no también a los aficionados que disfrutamos y amamos el baseball 

Seguiré opinando mientras pueda sobre el cierre patrona y sus consecuencias

A Spanish speaker! Welcome! Here is a Claude translation of this post:

Well, responding to the comment about the different contracts and the payment of taxes on them — it's a matter of seeing what the laws say about different contracts and what to do in cases similar to Otany's [Ohtani's], if he decides to reside in Japan. It's not fair that he doesn't pay taxes on what he earned under his contract.

Regarding the dispute over the negotiations for the new labor contract between billionaires (owners) and the rich (players), the contracts and the other issues both sides have would need to be addressed. It all comes down to closing the gaps. Fair is fair.

I don't know the IRS rules regarding MLB, but I don't think there's any difference from other companies, unions, and different types of businesses and employees, as this person has said in their comment. With the greatest respect, I find it hard to believe. I... really — I can't believe it!! The rules and regulations with MLB and the union would need to be redone to prevent tax evasion.

We fans are praying that there won't be another strike putting next season at risk because of the greed (with everyone's pardon) that does so much harm to those workers who live on an insignificant salary compared to those million-dollar contracts — including those who are already around salary arbitration.

Well... another kind of arbitration could be set up, with three judges, each with their own advisor. That is, a panel of three judges who would be responsible for mediating on a specific point in the negotiations, and thus avoid the work stoppage that does so much damage — not only economically, but also to the fans who enjoy and love baseball.

I'll keep sharing my opinion for as long as I can about the lockout and its consequences.

[TNtwins85]

6 hours ago, NYCTK said:

I truly don't think they are. They'll pretend to be up until late February. 

Logically it doesn’t make sense but who knows. Running it through AI a 94 equivalent work stoppage would amount to somewhere between 7-10 billion dollars lost between the owners and players not to mention the hit they take year over year after. I just don’t see that happening even if it’s half as bad as 94. I could be wrong.

[TNtwins85]

5 hours ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

A Spanish speaker! Welcome! Here is a Claude translation of this post:

Well, responding to the comment about the different contracts and the payment of taxes on them — it's a matter of seeing what the laws say about different contracts and what to do in cases similar to Otany's [Ohtani's], if he decides to reside in Japan. It's not fair that he doesn't pay taxes on what he earned under his contract.

Regarding the dispute over the negotiations for the new labor contract between billionaires (owners) and the rich (players), the contracts and the other issues both sides have would need to be addressed. It all comes down to closing the gaps. Fair is fair.

I don't know the IRS rules regarding MLB, but I don't think there's any difference from other companies, unions, and different types of businesses and employees, as this person has said in their comment. With the greatest respect, I find it hard to believe. I... really — I can't believe it!! The rules and regulations with MLB and the union would need to be redone to prevent tax evasion.

We fans are praying that there won't be another strike putting next season at risk because of the greed (with everyone's pardon) that does so much harm to those workers who live on an insignificant salary compared to those million-dollar contracts — including those who are already around salary arbitration.

Well... another kind of arbitration could be set up, with three judges, each with their own advisor. That is, a panel of three judges who would be responsible for mediating on a specific point in the negotiations, and thus avoid the work stoppage that does so much damage — not only economically, but also to the fans who enjoy and love baseball.

I'll keep sharing my opinion for as long as I can about the lockout and its consequences.

The problem is really that MLB and the owners are trying to force a problem-reaction-solution down the players and fans’ throats when in all actuality what they are trying to accomplish is more money in their pockets which is what a salary cap does whether people realize it or not. The players have a union which is gonna fight to keep or gain more of that pie but MLB is gonna try to pigeon hole them into a floor with a cap. This just like everything else in the corporate world leaves the consumer holding the bag. The game could be improved without the different avenues of sharing money. Parity could be achieved with a few simple rule changes in the form of carrots and sticks instead of dollars. One needs to look no further than a Forbes list of the most valuable franchises. It’s dominated by NFL and NBA teams. Why? Because they have caps and floors. It’s just one avenue to fix a not so big problem but for sure benefits MLB, the owners and to a lower extent the players. At the end of that list is the fans/consumers.